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Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment

This is an article i found via http://www.firstnations.com. The original link is:


–and allows comments! (if you want to visit the original posting site) You see how many people are reading their forums and you may want to join in! i’m putting a few of my own comments in here (between “{ }”), as well as a bunch of text at the end.

Hopefully the poster won’t mind me reproducing it here, in part. If she/does, I’ll listen.

Dear Group Members,

I want to share an article with you. This is about the link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues. The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature.

Thank you,
Sushil Yadav

Please note : The article has been written in short sentences rather than paragraph-form because it is about subjective experience / emotion/ reduction of thought.

Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.

Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel.
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet.
Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist.

{As far as cities existing, i wonder if there are ways to design –or re-design– cities so that the Environment can thrive; i think there are!}

Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking.

If there are no gaps there is no emotion.

Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion.

When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing.

There comes a time when there are almost no gaps.

People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps.

Emotion ends.

Man becomes machine.

A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety.

A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety.






See the rest of this interestingly unorthodox article:



This editor’s comments after reading through most of the article, and POUNCING in the middle (once i intuited the gist of it):

Pushes an ideological-like angle, as if one or the other is the only option.

i say, balance is crucial, on the other hand. There are REASONS why people are ‘thinking’, versus being “at peace” by moving beyond thinking, a.k.a. “the mind”/our collective programming to be a reduced ‘social role’, et al, and into the alleged planet-saving peace of ‘work’ (as in the small community-agricultural setting).

These reasons are prohibited from becoming their full fruition/flowers in a society STUCK in koyanisqatsi (see the entire film online, for free at your favorite site). Basically, a chain-of-command stricture over-arching the teeming champion heroes NOT ALLOWED to even explore their purposes for being here, much less their self truths.

And what of ‘agriculture’ vs permaculture? What of INTEGRATION of these two excellences? After all, many are THINKING (within strictures) from a HEART that is scientifically NOT ALLOWED to even get close to articulating itself! But we wish to, and thus this symptom comes OUT of us in diverse forms. Via diverse forms of difficulties in living (popularized as so-called “mental illness”, which is not a proven scientific reality, but merely sleight of hand mystification utilizing Generation Rollback’s naive trust in the wizards of Oz).

The pro-agri-ideology espoused here leaves out critical symptoms which ought to be encouraged (why, in part, i’m drawn to Indigenous culture-iNg).


To evolve the situation as it now stands, and which this guest poster somehow misses, we begin to realize the value of empowering people’s intuitive liberation via creatively intelligent approaches (i.e. imagine prime-timing the most intense activated ideas!), igniting both angles (the value of agriculture becoming permaculture and escaping the chain-of-command structure apparently being justified in this poster’s argument.

Doesn’t she/he want ALL to become restricted to a streamlining, after all?

Yes, there is a crisis; so thus the push to keep us, i think, in this stricture, itself ANOTHER form of automatonization!! As if seeking to enhance marxism (?) and all those other straight-line-promoting imaginations of old europe (i’m agreeing here with George Tinker that many Indigenous folks’ themselves, have beliefs watered down by eurocentric conditionings of diverse sorts).


bUT if we are to merely re-insert a new form of drudgery (One Way of Doing Things does have that DRUDGERY aspect when coerced/forced)? –No, i do not see such a game/tact working. ANY chain-of-command stricture that coerces conformity via guilt and related hysterias, does not seed the kind of liberating HEART we all need to WANT to solve the challenge!!! i think!

What i see this all coming down to is that maybe we can’t “save the world” (a.k.a. survive as humans), but i think we CAN save the beings we all ARE, by re-seeing and inspiring a re-awakening in ALL OF OUR MYRIAD intuitions on this angle. And then we can take that consciousness with us (if we practice it so much that it “arts us”/becomes our art) where-ever we go from here. To save Mom Earth? Perplexing questions, YES!

Balancing the Lodges/clans
Further, it is not “man” we must restrict ourselves from, but patriarchal imagination, also known as Martialist stricture. And yet Martialist strictures serve a purpose, sometimes even crucially. The gist of the challenge is that ONLY ONE TRIBAL WAY (the Martial Lodges or clans) gets seriously heard and allowed to come to fruitions. This is what i think Koyanisqatsi (the film, online for free in full) was trying to speak.

It is time to return to balanced ways of our BETTER bests.

Preparedness in myriad
Liberating “man” from the one-sided ways of what our tribes have become (and have been manipulated into), liberating “man” from Only One Way of Doing Things, also known as Patriarchy. “Man” is often, i think, intuitively matriarchal as well as patriarchal, and patriarchy rises out of something real (i.e. Fear of Huge Unknowns). i think of a good illustration being PREPAREDNESS for possible situations like arose in the movie “Pacific Rim”.

To be prepared!

And yet, the “silly”, the “unrealistic”, the intuitive, the matriarchal also has a place in an evolved humanity (evolved enough to realize the value of such a BALANCE between the tribes/nations/clans of matriarchy and patriarchy).

Maybe there is a better way to say this. Maybe you will feel free to speak of such here, maybe not. That is okay. All i ask is that you THINK IT THROUGH!!!!

fINAL note, or reiteration: i think humanity is “SYMPTOMING” in myriad. If we can see that we are ALL part of the problem AS WELL AS part of the solution (and not merely always behind-the-scenes in our masses), i think we can jump-start the kind of GREAT SPIRIT that we all once were as kids, and carry that excellence, that gift (from the cosmos in which we come from and will one day return), into life as we’ve not yet been really allowed to imagine.

Not Utopia, Wetopia
My own idea of approach? We’to(h)’pi’ahh (not utopia). Bringing the “we” into the quotient in ways in which the cynicalized/psychicly beaten-down have not imagined. And to the alleged f.b.i. agent who once challenged me (apparently seeking to empathize with my humanity) with “Everything has been done”, i say, no it hasn’t!!!!!

One angle would be re-imagining prime-time media and sports, for one. What would such look like if teams were, say, ideological (or anti-ideological), and competed somehow in that regard? Can we not imagine such a scenario??? Could poets dare away from academia and the stage (not to mention fears of internal politics) long enough to inspire their student poets or friends in such a vein?

(NOTE: the portion below was being edited here when suddenly, tho i am using https, a block of text was highlighted and taken out! Hacked, apparently…So, i’ll post it without re-editing it!)

And what of war? i’ve personally found openings to engaging the strategically-challenged in ways that surprise them, and open up opportunity for evolutionary advancement, both on a micro and macro level. Imagine taking that “ball” and running with it.

What we are up against, i think (based on my over 25 years of educating myself), is the reality that most have been programmed/conditioned/socialized to accept being “beasts of burden” in the context of this war/Martial tribal off-balance which has had so much alleged “success” in Getting It’s Way. This is where i think Noam Chomsky is so pivotal because he outlines and demystifies social and cultural manager mind (i.e. Walter Lippmann, Reinhold Niebuhr, Harold Lasswell, Edward Bernays, et al). They (and their manipulated masses) have their “shared values” internalized (or they wouldn’t last long in their ranks).

They know no better, having had such cynicism drilled into their heads since they entered compulsory schooling (including amongst the ‘elites’), and having no one to turn to with their intuitive rebellion (!) thanks to the family being so reduced into this ‘Nuclear’ stricture so many of us assume is “the only realistic way” to bring up kids! And then all the well-funded media, systematically feeding that seeding with out-of-context and non-empathizing “news”! Along with the entire “First World” cult-ure buttressing and backing up such a stupidized, reductionist Misery Loves Company. i think.

honoriNg the dream of the human beiNgs! AnD aLL ouR relatioNs!!!!!

Points by the author above that jumped out at me most:

Discussions / debates / arguments can end only in agriculture-based societies that do physical work.

If we want to do physical work we have to reduce mental activity by the same proportion.
If we want to do mental work we have to reduce physical activity by the same proportion.
There is very little discussion / debate / argument in societies that do physical work – ie, agriculture-based societies – And this is the reason why they are millions of times saner than industrial societies.

Change is an inherent feature of mental work.

Since change is an inherent feature of mental work – a society that does mental work can never be at peace with itself – it is impossible.

A society that does mental work will always be restless.

Only those societies that do physical work [agriculture and related activities] can find contentment and peace.


4 Responses to “Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment”

  1. hello,

    Peace is directly tied to seeking God and being obedient in faith; it is a gift God gives you, we want peace of mind in our life…………..

    • Well, i happen to think that “peace” is a metaphor, a frame of reference, which many people take up and utilize to say or aim towards what each wants, and what each of us wants tends to get tied up in the “schools” that we each come from. So, your “school” it seems to me is religion; and if that does something good for you, good. But to try to universalize that concept upon all others, to try, as you seem to be doing here, to say that your “school” of thought gets to have a hegemony over that word, that frame of reference, i disagree.

      We all have different ways of relating, and i work to respect all of these, without trying to hierarchize. To me, to try to bring a hierarchy into these things we all want, these metaphors, these poetries we all want, well, i think that is a bit too manipulative.

    • I think of ‘god’ as a metaphor, with myriad poetries competing, but generally all saying the same thing, tho with different poetic ways of saying it. Just wanted to share.

      If a way works for you, good. Just don’t try shoving it down my throat!

    • sameer, i thank you for sharing your feelings. i see the value of seeing whatever poetic metaphor that resonates with us being valuable! As long as we keep accountability and can “walk in the shoes of others” and not merely go around trying to force everyone else into “only 1 way of seeing”. You found a poetic metaphor that works for you, but how can you expect that everyone would want or need to use the same poetic???

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